I have no idea how to start. It was supposed to be 'about' their story summarised, but I don't know how to make it sound good without going through so much detail ^^; Plus it's not easy summarising their story when so much goes on.. hm. Wanna volunteer? lol
LOL, let me think about it. I think I might have a creative way to write their summary. But I'm not making any promises that I'll do it though, lol.
How many times does the dream actually appear in the course of the entire drama? Was it twice? (Once with YePing, and the second was when Zi Xuan saves Changqing?) Please refresh my memory ^^;
It was three times (however, I am not completely sure about this). Once when he was Yeping, and twice when he was Changqing. The first time Changqing dreams of Zixuan, like you said, was when she saved him, and the third time was after Changqing saved Long Kui so that she could live like a normal person. The third time happens in episode 13; you can watch it here and it begins at around 2:20 :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwgSBEsf ... re=related
The only reason why I thought Zi Xuan gave Ye Ping the dream was because she looked really confident that he still yearns and loves her. It was as if she was so certain he'll love her again, and this certainty may be derived from her having control of him remembering her (Does this make any sense?) I think it would have been good if the drama showed Zi Xuan sometime after they jumped off the cliff (when Liu fang died and she was saved), something to show what was going through her mind etc. They only show this through narration, and it's somewhat hard to see Zi Xuan feeling devastated and helpless, when the next shot of her meeting Ye Ping- she is smiling with determination and confidence. Yes, it's most likely just her being optimistic and happy now that "Liu Fang" is finally back after a 100 years or so, but somewhere deep down I would think she has some insecurities...(which she doesn't show to him)
One more reason why I don't believe it was Zixuan giving him any of those dreams was because Changqing was fully capable of dreaming about Zixuan on his own, twice at that. Plus, the dream Yeping had was so cryptic and so many weird and confusing things were happening in it (like how people's dreams are supposed to be: cryptic, weird, and confusing) that I've just never felt like Zixuan would ever give him such an ambiguous dream, or if it *was* Zixuan giving him the dream, why would she give him 'that' kind of dream? Instead, why not give him a dream that'd make some sense? In his dream, Zixuan kept on appearing and disappearing, looking like an expressionless statue, and then disappears again at the end; to me, it's exactly like the kind of dream Yeping would be able to have, not the kind of dream Zixuan would give even if she could.
Another reason why I believe Yeping was capable of having that dream by himself was because in episode 18 when he and Zixuan were at the tavern, he tells her that perhaps he practices the Way because he was destined to enlighten her; but then when Zixuan starts reciting the lines, "In life, in death, or separation, I gave my word. To hold your hands, and grow old together," Yeping started getting teary-eyed. This, I believe, is proof to what I was saying earlier about him having the love for Zixuan that was left over from his previous life as Liufang. Yeping also told Zixuan that every time he sees her, even though he doesn't know the reason, he seems to feel as if he's known her before. So he already had feelings for her deep inside him, which is why I believe he'd at least be able to dream about her.
Besides, I refuse to think that Changqing/Yeping's love and desire for Zixuan wasn't strong enough that Zixuan would actually *need* to cast spells and give him those dreams. It'd just be awful and incredibly absurd if he needed spells casted on him just so he'd be able to dream about her. The producers and creators of the series make tons of references to Changqing and Zixuan's relationship that shows just how deep, unsuperficial, and profound their love is and how it transcends time and space and all that stuff, that it wouldn't make any sense to me if Zixuan would have to give him dreams like he can't dream about her on his own. It wouldn't be real unconditional love that he has for her if she actually needed to give him those dreams.The only reason why I thought Zi Xuan gave Ye Ping the dream was because she looked really confident that he still yearns and loves her. It was as if she was so certain he'll love her again, and this certainty may be derived from her having control of him remembering her (Does this make any sense?)
I get what you're saying. But I never got the impression that she was really confident about Yeping yearning and loving her. I even went back to rewatch their scenes together just to make sure that I wasn't somehow mistaken about this. Throughout the whole time they were at the tavern together, she was trying so hard to make him remember her again and to get him back that every time when what she did didn't work, she either became angry, frustrated, or sad and would just say things like, "why am I the only one suffering here?" and "I'm the only one who's still devoted".. There were many times during this part that made it clear that she was indeed feeling devasted and helpless. And that line she said of "why am I the only one suffering here" made it pretty clear to me that even though she does pretend to smile and act confidently in front of Yeping at times, she is suffering inside. I don't think she was ever truly confident, I think it was more like she was really hopeful that he'd still remember her or come be with her again. I also never got the impression that Zixuan was so certain he'll love her again. By watching how she looked and acted, it never seemed that way to me. Right before Yeping announced that he'd marry her, she was so heartbroken and crying and in so much pain because all Yeping was willing to do was drink for her and not marry her.the next shot of her meeting Ye Ping- she is smiling with determination and confidence. Yes, it's most likely just her being optimistic and happy now that "Liu Fang" is finally back after a 100 years or so, but somewhere deep down I would think she has some insecurities...(which she doesn't show to him)
I would assume that when you say the next shot of her meeting Yeping would be when she falls from the tree and he catches her right? Actually, my first impression was that she was smiling like that because it was more like her putting on a facade. Yeah, she was smiling but she also frowned when she broke the tree branch. So that's why I always felt what she did was more of an act. The reason I say this is because the kind of romantic and fanciful display where she plans to fall off a tree and into his arms isn't something that people would naturally or usually do if they weren't trying to put on a show (get what I mean?) If she was going to give it her best and make such a flashy and extravagant appearance, it'd make the most sense for her to smile with determination and confidence. Of course she was also smiling at how cute he was being after she told him not to stare since it's rude and he turns to look away. I also thought it was her way of trying to woo him, along with leaving a good, memorable first impression. She's a seductress after all; she knows how to charm men and make them fall for her, and we all know who else I'm talking about here, lol. She's so smart and clever when it comes to this stuff. But of course I'm sure she was also happy that "Liufang" was finally back. And I agree with you that deep down she definitely did have insecurities too, but Zixuan has never really been the type of woman to show them, except to Shenggu.
I also have to admit that I seriously LOVED that the producers/creators personalized this idea of Zixuan sitting in a tree and made it into her own thing, since she is the Earth mother.
I just wondered how Ye Ping thought of his own illogical actions and what he came up with to justify them. If he doesn't know about the past and doesn't understand where these feelings of lust and helplessness comes from, what's there to keep him sane? Since meeting Zi Xuan, it was like he lost all his own sense of mind =( I kinda felt sorry for him.
I know, I sort of felt bad for him as well. He really did look like he had lost his own sense of mind. But at least he was sane enough to know what he had to do, and that was to give in and marry Zixuan, haha (I'm so mean, lol).
That's a really nice way of looking at it (lol, I love this--> '... it's a lonely, forgetful place that can only be touched and slightly recalled whenever Zixuan appears. And so her reappearances triggers him to have those dreams.").
Thanks, I really love it too, heheh. It went perfectly with the point I was trying to make.
Btw, I feel that I should also mention the reasons why I said that that place in his heart represents his greatest happiness. It was because Changqing had stated a few times throughout the series that Zixuan was the only person who could make him feel things no one else could. Back in episode 17, when Changqing was still Liufang, he told his Taoist master that he didn't care who Zixuan was, saying, "I only know that she can make me cry, and laugh, be happy, and sad. She's the lady whom I miss dearly. She's the only one who makes me feel that my life is meaningful." Then there was another case of him (this time as Changqing) revealing how Zixuan made him felt and that was toward the end of episode 23 when he was going to find Zixuan. He told the Taoist Sect Leader that when he had made up his mind to find Zixuan, he felt a joy that he had never experienced before, and that the feeling couldn't be described with words. -- So this was why I called that place in his heart as one representing his greatest happiness, because Zixuan herself is his greatest happiness.
I always associated the line 'What doesn’t exist, exists at the bottom of the heart' as Changqing's feelings for Zi Xuan in the ending as well... The fact no one in the world knows they remember each other, so their love technically 'doesn't exist', but he does know he will always love her from the bottom of his heart.. But you're very right, it applies to him as a whole and YePing/Liu Fang.
I associate that line with Changqing, Yeping, and Liufang, but in different ways of course. Since all three of the lifetimes are different in many ways, that line can be interpreted and understood on a lot of levels. Everybody has their own interpretations. =]
Alright, I just thought of something (didn't think of this before)- Maybe..just MAYBE in the dream where Changqing takes off the horse mask, it's actually his memories of her from their first life. Liu Fang and Zi Xuan separated for three years back then and the same thing happens, he takes the mask off her face when they see each other. Since most of Changqing's 'dream/flashback' revolved around YePing, it's not hard to believe even memories before then had leaked in. Just speculation. I really need to rewatch this, ehhe.
Oh, I never thought of it that way. I do get what you're saying though, but it's just not how I feel about it lol.